58. Using HD as a Tool to Unlock Your Child's Potential with Imogen Gould
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In this episode of the Money Mindset Hub podcast, I am excited to introduce our guest, Imogen Gold. Imogen is a behavioural therapist, human design reader, and entrepreneur. She shares her personal journey and how she has incorporated human design into her parenting and helping others discover their true selves.
During our conversation, Imogen and I delve into the significance of understanding human design in the context of parenting. We explore topics such as bedtime routines and how they can be tailored to suit each child's unique design. We also discuss the importance of nurturing and supporting children's passions, as well as the limitations of traditional education and the need for critical thinking and intuition.
Imogen provides practical tools and strategies for parents to effectively communicate with and support their children's individual ways of processing information. I emphasize the transformative power of gaining self-awareness and understanding our children through the lens of human design.
Tune in to this episode to gain valuable insights and learn how human design can positively impact your parenting journey.
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Speaker 1 (00:00:00) - Welcome back to another episode of the Money Mindset Hub podcast. So today I have an incredible guest, Imogen Gold, who is a behavioral therapist, a solid entrepreneur, a human design reader, and her mission is to live life fully without holding back. She lives a life by her own design, and she wishes for this freedom to be possible for everyone. As a qualified therapist, entrepreneur and also a mum, she coaches women and families to create their own happiness by unlocking their truth and uniqueness. So she uses human design and holistic child centered therapy to guide parents into a new way of raising their children in a way that is easeful fun and also abundant, a way that supports a child's uniqueness to grow and develop into exactly who they came here to be. That is so inspirational and something that I wish everyone had of known before becoming parents that there is their own uniqueness and they actually have a human desire. And I didn't know about human design until a few years ago. So I'm going to hand it over to you.
Speaker 1 (00:01:06) - And yeah, tell me what sort of, like, got you on this path. Tell me a bit about your journey.
Speaker 2 (00:01:10) - Thank you, Carla. What an intro. I feel almost pressured. I was like, Wow. Is that me? Wow. I'm so excited to be here and chat with you. I know that we have a great connection. We're both projectors, so we both have that big picture perspective and I think we both really connect in terms of wanting to support mums and women build themselves so they can help their kids. I remember when we first met in these group program. Is that where we met?
Speaker 1 (00:01:39) - Yeah, yeah, I think was a guest speaker.
Speaker 2 (00:01:41) - Yeah, you were. And you were talking about your big vision for wanting to help mums and business women create money and like. Sort of tear down the whole money blocks and stuff. Their kids as well. And I just oh my God, I remember how much I resonated with that. And I was just like, wow.
Speaker 2 (00:01:59) - And you know what that was? That was me recognizing you as a projector. Like, I really saw you in that moment. So yay for us meeting.
Speaker 1 (00:02:07) - I know. And connecting in that way isn't. It's so funny because you just never know where you're going to meet people and what's going to resonate, but then just something will happen or something that's sad and you're like, Oh, you're my person. I get you. And we stay connected ever since.
Speaker 2 (00:02:21) - Yes, exactly. Okay. So I'll tell you a little bit about myself. So I guess in terms of career wise, I'm a social worker and when I got my first social work job, I had the blessing of being able to get trained up as a behavior therapist. So I still am working in the space with children, with behavioral issues. So that was my journey for a couple of years. And then I guess through that process, it was a very quick process for me. I realized that I didn't really want to work for the man, so to speak, and I really wanted to go and do my own thing, and I just felt this huge.
Speaker 2 (00:02:55) - Something inside of me. I wasn't sure what it was, but I felt like I was going to be here for more, like I wanted to do more. It was a feeling, really, right. That was my soul calling, I guess. And so I got pulled into starting to create my own business and all sorts of different streams and three line and we'll talk about three lines, but like trying all sorts of different things. Anyway, so I got pulled into human design and just kept being called back. And I did. I did a course and now I'm a human design reader. And so through that process, I learning about my own design and being in my own human design experiment, I started to heal heaps of my trauma. And I have done a lot of therapy myself, like a lot of personal work on me. And human design was just like a whole nother layer of self acceptance. Like I was just like, Wow, that's really my truth. That's who I get to be.
Speaker 2 (00:03:48) - And it was really like this big permission slip pace for me to just be exactly who I came here to be. And I started really trusting my journey even more. And so through that process, I just became more confident and within myself. And then I started applying it to my parenting, and I started learning about my daughter's design, my partner's design. And we are like all about human design now in our house. So I was a single mum and obviously I'm divorced, but we have a 5050 split that comes with its own challenges obviously. And I think as a parent we all sort of try not to do some things that our parents did and then we try and do some things our parents did which we liked, right Then there was that additional layer for me with having a separate household. I totally trust her dad, but we parent slightly differently. And so being able to parent my daughter from her design, I started to really see her truth and what was and wasn't from her dad where I was trying or forcing something.
Speaker 2 (00:04:48) - But actually she needed I think this is a little bit like broad, but when we get into the nitty gritty of it, it'll make more sense. But it has honestly just made life easier really, because I have been able to sit back as a mum and be like, Oh, okay, that's actually just her. Like, that's who she is. I don't have to push or force or do anything more. It's okay. Like I can just let her be herself. And of course we all want to be able to support our child's confidence and self esteem and let them be who they're going to be. But I don't think we know that until we know the design, because unless you know their type and their strategy and their authority that we don't know how they communicate, how they make decisions, how they interact with life and other people, I think that's huge. It's just so huge. And I think that other layer within that is understanding energy centers. So that's like a little bit deeper layer of human design, obviously, but.
Speaker 2 (00:05:41) - We can talk a little bit more about that if you'd like, but it's. Just made, like, for example, sleeping my daughter's sleep. So, so many parents out there struggle with getting their kids to sleep. Right. And so earlier this year, I have implemented these practices to help my daughter go to sleep. We used to be up for like half an hour, an hour after she'd gone to bed because she'd keep getting up, she'd keep getting up, she'd keep getting up. And now with these practices that I've put in place, because I understand her design, she's in bed and she's asleep when she goes to sleep. And there's none of that crap like none of it. I've also told my ex-husband, same thing. He's like loving life because of this stuff that I've told him. So.
Speaker 1 (00:06:23) - So tell me, what do you do? Because I'm sure so many parents listening now, like so many moms, are going to be like, what's your secret?
Speaker 2 (00:06:30) - So what do you do?
Speaker 1 (00:06:31) - I mean, even I have this sometimes, so I know that all my kids are generators.
Speaker 1 (00:06:35) - I do have it written down. I can't remember off the top of my head what their lines are, what their authorities are. But I do know that all three of them are generators. And I'm a projector, so no wonder I feel exhausted by 7:00 every day. But I have this to with my kids, like in my daughter, particularly my eldest, who's six. She will go to bed, but she'll still be awake for like an hour. So not that she'll get up and get in and out. The kids have always been pretty good sleepers. I'm just noticing that now and it's starting to flow over to my son, who's four. It's like, Oh no, hang on, He'll keep getting up for about half an hour. So what do you do? How do you get him to stay in bed?
Speaker 2 (00:07:15) - So is she getting up just like for a glass of water or go to the toilet? Or is she coming out like she's scared of something because there's a different energy depending on the needs.
Speaker 2 (00:07:25) - There's different things happening.
Speaker 1 (00:07:26) - Yeah. So for her, my six year old, this would be I'm scared. Not all the time. Not all the time. Often she knows if she's still really awake, she'll just get her journal, she'll start writing, or she'll get a book and she'll start reading because she loves school. She's in prep and loves that all that stuff. So she'll do that to amuse herself. But sometimes she'll be she'll play the scared card, my son, more so just trying to be cheeky. I'm trying to be cheeky. He's creeping around the whole way, like pretending you can't see him and stuff. So I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (00:08:01) - That's hilarious and super cute. But not for you. Not for you and me, obviously. So there's so many layers there. Like, obviously we need to understand firstly with human design that there's conditioning, right? So the conditioning piece in this that I really feel into is the fact that as parents we feel like our kids need to have a set bedtime that is conditioning who told us that we need our kids need this amount of hours sleep, right.
Speaker 2 (00:08:26) - We don't know what they've done that day. We don't know what they're going to do the next day. All all of that stuff. And it's all biology. But also each type needs a different way to get to sleep. And they have different energy input, like in and out needs. Okay, so let's take your kids, for example. So they're all generators regardless of whether their authority is emotional or sacral because either be one of the two.
Speaker 1 (00:08:49) - I'm just like trying to find it here because I know I've I know I've got them. There you go. My six year old and my four year old are both two for sacral generators.
Speaker 2 (00:08:59) - Interesting. Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:09:01) - Yeah, interesting. And then my youngest. She is A35 emotional generator.
Speaker 2 (00:09:10) - Yeah, right. Okay. So even with a Taurus. Oh, dear. Well, there's just so many layers, isn't there? Just. There is so many layers and they are all connected. Let's not put to the side all numerology and astrology and things like that because they are all connected.
Speaker 2 (00:09:25) - But let's go back. So emotional and sacral authority are completely different. So that's something that I would recommend you just like understand around the emotional authority of your youngest. However, let's talk about sleep. So generators in general have a lot more energy as we know. So they do have a lot more energy. Kids are energetic beans regardless, but it's very important for generator sleep. This is for adults, too, by the way, that they must expend their energy throughout the day to be able to get to sleep and switch off at night. So for a child, they'll have like they'll probably have their waves, especially if it's emotional, if they're emotional, but they have their waves of up and downs. It doesn't mean they're not going to rest. Obviously, they're still going to need to rest. But when they get to sleep, if you're noticing that they're not quite ready for bed, like if they're still bouncing up and down, that might be a sensory thing. They might be wanting to get out that sensory, perhaps a root pressure within that energy center.
Speaker 2 (00:10:21) - But they really need to be able to have that time to let go of the rest of that energy when they get to bed. So the practice that I use with my daughter, instead of saying like we went through the process of like, no, this is your bedtime and you're going to go to sleep now and this is it. Go back to bed like. And it was, Oh my God, I feel like so many people will relate to this. It's awful because it's like, just go to bed. Oh, like it's so it's like, oh, what is wrong with you know it? Listen to me. I am the authoritative parent.
Speaker 1 (00:10:53) - I know, right? I know.
Speaker 2 (00:10:55) - Yeah. So. Generators in general will need to probably not have a specific bedtime like I think it's important to not get stuck on that. I think for a parent we do need our downtime, so maybe there's a cut off, but just don't get stuck on like it has to be at 7 p.m.. Like give that, give that lenience.
Speaker 2 (00:11:16) - But the practice that we're using with my daughter is that we say good night. We do all our good nights, we do our gratefulness, our favorite parts of the day. We have our little rituals. And then Sam, my partner, goes and my daughter and I, we have a secret handshake, so we do that. Super cute. Yeah. And then she'll go to sleep. Well, it would be time for bed. Sorry. But then I give her an unlimited amount of time for coloring in. She's really arty. She loves to draw and stuff, so she'll sit in bed and just draw on coloring. And then she will come out to me when she's ready to go to sleep. So this is a two fold thing for me because she has an open spleen in her chart, which means that she is just naturally a more fearful child, something that I used to place on my ex-husband. Like I used to, like, feel like it was him because he's a bit of a helicopter parent, but it's not.
Speaker 2 (00:12:02) - She's just naturally more fearful. And that's her getting up and being like, Mommy, I'm scared or I can't go to sleep. Like a lot of the things I used to hear. I'm scared to sleep. Like she was saying that she was too scared to go to sleep. So. I'm helping her expel the energy while she's lying there drawing and colouring in. But I'm also giving her the opportunity to learn that it's okay to be by herself. And so she'll come out when she's finished drawing or I'll give her half an hour and be like, okay, it's time for bed. And she goes to sleep straight away. No getting up, no crap, no bullshit, no stress for me. We're not creating that tension in the house. And it works like I cannot tell you enough. Like, it's just one.
Speaker 1 (00:12:45) - Do you know what I feel like? It would not surprise me if my my six year old was very similar in that sense, that fearful thing. Because I've always noticed that she has been more fearful, more cautious.
Speaker 1 (00:12:58) - I have also found that, yeah, she's we obviously thought, too, you know, she's six years old now. She doesn't need to be in bed by 730 every night like we have a general wind down thing. Yeah, maybe for me it's also like I need that because I need to go to bed early. My husband needs to get to bed early. He gets up 415 every day. So for us it's like there needs to be some sort of a cutoff. So we start to wind the kids down, like about 7:15. Get in your jammies, go to the toilet, brush your teeth, then we'll play some, you know, and and then we'll go into bed, you know. Yeah. But it's that habit of with my eldest saying, all right, well if you're not tired that's okay because we understood, you know, as I get older, they're not going to need as much sleep. And she's been at school all day, right? She is tired, but she's still needs that extra wine down for her.
Speaker 1 (00:13:46) - It is like, just write in your journal or read a book. And then we always just say, just give it like five, ten minutes. And then, you know, you'll you'll go to sleep and she will my son different kettle of fish. So he's like once his head hits the pillow, if he's not being a bit cheeky for 15, 20 minutes or whatever, that's cool. He's being cheeky. We know, we keep saying, just go back, back in a bed, buddy, and then he'll be out. Yeah. Once he's out, he's out.
Speaker 2 (00:14:10) - Yes.
Speaker 1 (00:14:11) - But it's interesting that you say that because I think that a lot of the time when we try to raise our kids, this is where we get triggered the most because our conditioning all comes up too. So for sure, I feel like becoming a parent is like the awakening of yourself of like, Oh, I didn't realize how much shit was under the surface until I'm trying to parent.
Speaker 2 (00:14:36) - Literally.
Speaker 1 (00:14:36) - That's right. And then you're doing it differently, right? Because I had a different upbringing to MC Thankfully, we're both very much on the same page, but we have to have lots of conversations.
Speaker 1 (00:14:48) - You'll feel this too, with your daughter or anyone listening who's got kids. You'll feel like, especially with your first, you're learning everything new with them. Yes. And then have to remember that with consecutive kids, they're all different. So what worked for the first one doesn't necessarily work for the second, and it sure as hell doesn't work for the third. Let me tell you, he's going to send me Gray and she's only two. Yeah. Did you find that too? Like becoming a parent? You realize it was like, oh, all this deep conditioning stuff. You realize what was actually going on. And not that our parents did a bad job. Like I know for myself, I was speaking for myself. I had fantastic parents. They were also very young when they had four kids. They were 27 and they had four kids by that point. That is young. Considering what I know now around the human brain and how long it actually takes to fully develop and you're trying to raise children and your brain isn't fully developed yet, That's just adds a whole nother layer of complexity to you.
Speaker 1 (00:15:43) - Find all that sort of come up and how have you used your human design to then heal that?
Speaker 2 (00:15:49) - Great question. Of course I agree. Absolutely. You sort of get triggered all the time. And you know, I was just thinking about this last night. I was helping my daughter read. And like even the practice of helping her do her homework and doing reading, I get triggered because my experiences of that when I was young were not always pleasant. And sometimes I find that like, I'm engaging the same sort of behaviors that my parents used and I really have to stop myself. And it takes a lot of self-awareness and a lot of wanting to change and grow to be able to change those patterns because they're so deeply ingrained in the templates of our brain, right? It's just how we know how to respond in those situations. So even just the simplest things like helping your kids with homework can be triggering. But it's the bigger stuff too. Like, do we need to be getting our kids to do five different activities a week? Like how many extracurriculars are we doing? You know, it's all of that and then the conditioning of our society, of course, like there's so much pressure to get our kids to be doing things or are you doing enough or are you doing it well enough? I think you did a post about this the other day or a story about the conditioning within school Like this really fires me up around grades and yeah, and if you aren't getting to this level, you're not good enough.
Speaker 2 (00:17:03) - That really grinds my gears because it's so against our soul paths. Like everyone is worthy. Everyone is love and light when they're born. And then we get born into this structure and society, which is beautiful. But we, we get like, we're susceptible to all of this stuff that makes us feel like we're not good enough.
Speaker 1 (00:17:23) - 100%. Do you know what? As you said, that it made me think of just last week. So my daughter obviously in prep and there's different like levels to the books that they read like the readers that they bring home anyway. And I was having a conversation with another parent and she was. Saying. She's like, Oh, apparently the preps is only like the level one and level two. Like that's all they should be reading. That's acceptable for Prep. And then grade one, they go to threes and fours and whatever. But she's like, my daughter finds them really easy and I'm like, same. And I said, I don't agree with that. I will make sure she pushes herself to challenge herself and I won't just accept the fact that she's just a prep so she is only allowed to read these books from this category and not push herself to go to the next.
Speaker 1 (00:18:09) - Like if she can read at year levels above where she is, that's just because that's her and that's her strength. So I said, think if you want to push your daughter, just just do that. Just say no. Look, these are too easy for her. She needs to go up and encourage that because unless you voice it, the teacher may not know. You know, they've got a lot of kids to try and look after, too. And my daughter's teacher is fantastic. But honestly, reshared that real because I was like, this is exactly what it is. It's like, no, you are this age, you're in this level. This is the level you should be at. There's no need to excel like, but if you don't get to this level, you're not good enough. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (00:18:47) - Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:18:48) - Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:18:49) - Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:18:49) - And I don't agree with it. I do think that there's a lot of beautiful things in schools, but. Now I say that there's also a lot of conditioning in schools to keep your children in a box, and I really think that's where it's up to the parents to be so aware of that and to encourage them.
Speaker 1 (00:19:10) - Like no matter what, yes, they're going to pick up certain things at school because it's all too. Right. They're going to be there. They spend a lot of their time there every week. But it's really on how you explain that as a parent and don't let them lose their light and encourage them to follow the things that naturally light them up, follow the things and try the things that they're actually good at. They're excited about. Because if we stop doing that and we just let them just do what you're supposed to do in that year level, do what you're supposed to do at that age, Yeah, that's not encouraging them to excel. It's not encouraging them to challenge themselves. And so I said that to my daughter. I said, From now on, you need to be bringing home at least a level three or a four, because I know that those aren't challenging you. You can read the level twos, you read the whole book by yourself. Yeah, but you need to go up.
Speaker 1 (00:20:00) - And she's like, But they aren't in the reader box. I'm like, Well, you can ask for them. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:20:04) - So, so important. And I think really noting that the levels or the systems that are put in place in school obviously come from some form of like scientific, you know, basis and foundation on where children should be, keywords should, should be developmentally. But it's the same for the opposite end of the spectrum. Like if there's kids that are struggling and they're not at level 1 or 2, like you were just saying, for example, how are they going to feel about themselves? Like I remember getting called into a parent teacher interview earlier this year and my daughter was sort of we were told that she's not at this level of reader and she's not at this level of reader. And I came out of the parent teacher interview feeling like, Oh my God, we're not doing enough. And I felt like this huge pressure. And I was like, Oh no, what am I going to do? Like, I have to do all this? And like, she's not doing well enough, but not in a harsh way, but just like in a fearful way, like I'm not doing enough or what's going to happen for her.
Speaker 2 (00:21:03) - And I had to sit back and I was like, but who made these systems? Like who said that she should be here and she's actually here. And I really had to take a step back and be like, But that's okay. Like, it's okay if she's not at that level. She'll get there in her own time. And I went back and looked at a design and it's definitely some things to do with the arrows, how she sees like literally how she physically sees words on a page. Anyway, that's a whole nother topic, but I can see how those situations for other parents, they get fearful and they get caught up in the I have to make my child succeed. I have to make them the best that they can be. I have to push them and they have to be the best. But how are you making your child feel about themselves when you're doing that? If the school system is funneling us all into this, like we have to look exactly the same and be exactly this thing, and then there's people that don't fit into that funnel.
Speaker 2 (00:21:56) - Of course, they're going to sit out here when they're teenagers and adults and not feel good enough.
Speaker 1 (00:22:00) - Yeah, 100%. You always say everyone is good at different things. Everyone has their own strengths. I said, You are great at reading and writing. You're doing really well and I'm really proud of you. But there will be other things that you won't feel as good at and that's okay. Yeah. And there'll be other kids that are fantastic at other things and that's great as long as you feel good and you try your best and you encourage everyone else to try their best. We already have this conversation around competition. I always say there is no competition. You're in competition with yourself, but they're going to realize that as they get older, especially in high school, where you need to be moved to the front of the class because everyone else is distracting and it becomes this competitive nature in schools and don't like that. Because as we know, when you build a business, there is no competition. And if you have that, you will feel this hustle culture, you will feel this push energy and it feels like you're pushing uphill.
Speaker 1 (00:22:52) - And it's because of this conditioning to do things yourself don't share with others. You don't need to collaborate, you know, like you've got to get the best score. That's why you do all your tests and exams by yourself. Don't cheat. You know what I mean? Not that you should be cheating, but. But we're encouraged to do it. Well, yeah, make it easier, especially on the stuff you don't like doing. But, you know, if you think about it, a lot of the stuff that we did learn at schools, it's like, Well, how did that ever help me? Yeah, never taught us about money. They never taught us about taxes. The biggest thing for me is in schools don't teach us about a lot of the things that we actually need to understand as a parent, as an adult in society, we need to understand if we want to actually live a fulfilled life. This is the way that I grew up. Go to school, get good grades, go to uni, get a good job.
Speaker 1 (00:23:34) - You talk a hundred K, You made it. Yeah. Was it like, how limiting is that? That is so funny. Limiting. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:23:41) - And I think the other thing with that is unless you have like some amazing teacher, you don't get taught to think out of the box, think outside of what the books say. Yeah. And like the books authority. Rude. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:23:54) - And authority to make. Decisions.
Speaker 2 (00:23:57) - Yeah. Listening to our body and our intuition, I mean, I know that in the UK they've actually started developing human design schools. Like it's a thing, it's in the progression stage, so they're developing. I feel like that's where it needs to move in terms of education for our children because we need to be able to see their own unique gifts. And some kids are going to need different environments. If we want to talk about environments different and like the fear thing and definitely the way that we make decisions. One of the most important things of human design is understanding that our mind is not an authority, not for anyone.
Speaker 2 (00:24:30) - Doesn't matter what type you are. We are not here to use our brain and our mind to make our decisions. We all have our own intuitive type of like decision making within our body, and it's all about listening to that. And we do not get taught that. This is why so many people struggle to understand their emotions, because obviously, well, that's a whole nother conversation, isn't it, to like pushing down the emotions. But we don't get taught to listen to even our body cues. So how are people going to you know, it's a huge Deconditioning piece for people our age and older because we didn't get taught that stuff well. Most of us didn't. And like to start really listening to our intuition is a huge process because you need to start switching your mind off and start listening to what's actually happening in your body.
Speaker 1 (00:25:12) - Yeah, that's right. Because your body will always give you the answers 100%. Whether you get that gut feel or you just get that deep in. And I know for me being splenic, it's like that deep in and knowing that I've just got to do this.
Speaker 1 (00:25:26) - Yeah. Whatever it is that doesn't feel good, I've got to go this way. And every time I follow that, good things happen. Every time I don't follow that, I feel resentful.
Speaker 2 (00:25:36) - Yes. And how long did it take you to stop listening to? Because you can have those deep in annoying feelings, but then you also get that your brain being like, Oh, but Carla, should you be doing that or is that the right decision like that? Would that's always going to happen. Like your mind is there for a reason. It's there to keep us safe and it's always going to tell us these stories, these narratives or like warnings, right? But it's building that skill within you to be like, No, I do actually trust. I do trust my spleen or I do trust my emotional authority.
Speaker 1 (00:26:07) - It takes practice. I think it takes practice because it's not like straight away. But I was having a conversation the other day and we're talking about how you have that voice and it just gets louder and louder and louder until you actually acknowledge it and you go, All right, okay, I'm just going to do it, whatever it is like it is that intuition that it's speaking to you and it's you just have to follow it eventually because it's going to keep coming back.
Speaker 1 (00:26:28) - If it's meant for you, it's going to keep coming back. That feeling, that desire, that just that knowing that voice, whatever it is. And we all have some form of intuition. Some of us are more tapped into it. Others might just feel that gut feel others. I know we'll have to like speak it out and then they can hear it. And I've heard that. Have you heard that, too? When people are trying to talk about a decision and you instantly can hear their voice like change and you're like, that's it, You found it? Yeah. It's so interesting.
Speaker 2 (00:26:57) - Yeah. So like, obviously that's very much linked to your authority in your human design, how you need to be making decisions that are best for you. But there are like stacked. I don't know if you've heard this before, but basically we all have a stacked way of how we can make decisions. So for example, generator typically has sacral, but if they then also have their spleen defined and their center defined and their ego heart center defined because there's 6 or 7 different authority types and they all like track through the energy centers in your design.
Speaker 2 (00:27:24) - And so like if you have three of the authorities defined in your system, you have different ways of making decisions. So what you were just talking about in terms of speaking it out, but most likely they will have their center defined, which is very much talking about their decisions. So like I have that I'm splenic, but I also have my center defined. So I find if I never got that hit of like intuitive knowing because it's in the moment splenic obviously. But if I didn't get that, I'll talk to my partner Sam about whatever the decision I need to make is, and I don't need to hear his opinion. The way that the G Center Authority operates is just speaking my truth. Speaking, speaking, speaking, talking about. And I will hear my decision as I'm talking. So for me, that looks like. Yeah. So it looks like saying to MC, I don't need your opinion right now. I'm just going to rant, I'm just going to ramble and then you'll hear your decision within your speech.
Speaker 1 (00:28:18) - Yeah. Yep. 100% did it. When? Right before a few weeks before I launched the Matrix membership. I knew that I had to do it right, but my mind kept just like, coming back. Coming back, coming back. Like, Can you do this? You're projectile. Do you have the energy for that? My mind was just going down this funnel and whatnot, had this big conversation with him and I could hear it in my voice and I could feel it in my body and I was like, I'm doing it. I'm doing it because I knew I had that knowing. So, I mean, we could go off on so many different tangents here. But definitely when you work with families, when you work with parents, sort of how does that process kind of work? Where do you start?
Speaker 2 (00:28:57) - So typically, my first recommendation is always to start with yourself. So get a reading for yourself. If you know your human design and you want to learn your kids, do a parent child reading or just a child reading.
Speaker 2 (00:29:09) - If you have more than one to really. And the way that I approach a child reading is a little bit different to an adult because they don't have that deconditioning stuff that we need to work through as well. So it's a little bit it's a little bit simpler, but I give a lot of practical tools like how to communicate, how to listen, how to encourage your child's unique way and how they need to process things and how their energy works mean the aura in itself is just like you got to understand aura and your child's aura because it really impacts your your relationship between your child anyway. So doing that and then if you want to go down a further track, I do family packages. So like working through those bigger things and like consistent approaches to really. You know, consolidating your family and your energies within your family. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (00:29:59) - Yeah, that's very cool.
Speaker 2 (00:30:00) - Yeah, that's so cool.
Speaker 1 (00:30:02) - And I think it's something that if you don't know your own human design, please go do that.
Speaker 1 (00:30:05) - And if you don't know your kids, please go do that because it is going to make you understand even just ways to approach them differently. I know with with my kids, if I ask them, What do you want for dinner? They're just going to be like, oh, I don't know. Like they'll you know, they won't really know. But if I give them option A, option B, they'll make a decision like that. So it's even just those little things that are really quite interesting, but love that you do that, do the parent child readings and even just for the kids. And you're right, there is no deconditioning. They're very open.
Speaker 2 (00:30:32) - It's just an amazing opportunity for us to teach them to love themselves now. Like it's just we've missed that, like we didn't. And that's part of our journey. That's why we were born. We were born because that's part of our soul journey at this time. But like, we get to give that to our kids now, like we get to teach them to love themselves.
Speaker 2 (00:30:51) - Like right now, like, what's better than that? Like, we get to see our kids grow up and be adults and create relationships and create careers and jobs and hobbies and lives based on them, not what everyone else says they should do. Like, How wild is that? I'm trying not to swear.
Speaker 1 (00:31:08) - No, no. Mean don't even care if you swear it's fine. But no, I totally agree. Think it's amazing. So. I know that you have a few different resources too, so I'm going to link everything. I know that you have a free journal guide to on your website, so will link to that. You've also got a podcast which is Two Cups of fucking Sunshine. Yes, I love that.
Speaker 2 (00:31:30) - Yes.
Speaker 1 (00:31:31) - Okay. I'm going to link to that too. And please let us know where can everyone find you if they want to go and get a human design reading, whether it be a parent or child for themselves, for their kids, where can they find you?
Speaker 2 (00:31:42) - So best place to start would be Instagram.
Speaker 2 (00:31:44) - She's unlocked actually, and hit the link in my bio or send me a DM. I love having a chat if you're not really sure where to start with human design, please come to me because I can absolutely direct you to the best way to start, especially if you already sort of know your design but you're not sure where you want to go next. And as a therapist, I also offer therapeutic packages within your human design. So I do coaching for women to like really encompass the design more and deconditioned, but also heal their trauma and that anxiety and all of that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:32:15) - Because that's the journey you've been on yourself, right?
Speaker 2 (00:32:17) - Yes, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:32:19) - That's amazing. Well, I've loved this conversation and I'm going to link everything in the show notes. So please go to the show notes if you want to work with Imogen as well. She's incredible. And seriously, if you're even just a little bit curious, especially if you're getting this to this point where you're frustrated, right, with your kids and you're like, Oh my God, what do I do? Everything's not working.
Speaker 1 (00:32:35) - Understand their human design and it's going to change your life and you're just going to feel like it's not just you just not being good at it. It's like, Oh, now I actually know the different ways that I can approach them and different situations and it's just going to make it so much easier. And I know even for myself, I definitely need to go back in and have a look at their designs to understand them more because, I mean, I understand a projector very well. Yes, but I'm not going to say that I understand the rest of the types that well, many gems, maybe lots of my clients are managing, which is interesting. So I understand them. But yeah, think for understanding your kids, it's just a whole nother layer and it's just going to make life in general so much easier even for your household. Like, like you were saying, like the energy of your household, right? Yeah. And someone feels off the rest of the rest of the family feels off.
Speaker 1 (00:33:19) - You know, it's just like this. The dynamic gets affected. So if you can all bring harmony by understanding one another's design and how you can all communicate with each other, how you can make decisions together, just make your family run a lot more smoothly. It's just going to be absolutely game changing.
Speaker 2 (00:33:35) - Absolutely. This is the key. I really, truly believe this is the key.
Speaker 1 (00:33:39) - Yeah, think it is.
Speaker 2 (00:33:41) - Thank you so much, Karla, so much.